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Analyze Route

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:36 am
by KimG
When should this tool be used? There is no clear cut directions on under what conditions this or any of the other tools should be used.

Re: Analyze Route

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:31 am
by Velocomp
Analyze Route works best with solo rides that have an out-and-back component.

Re: Analyze Route

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:50 am
by KimG
John,

Could you give a basic rule-of-thumb as to when to utilize each on the analysis tools in the Isaac Analyze suite. Nothing too in-depth but something like you just gave me for the "Analyze Route...".

Kimball

Re: Analyze Route

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:02 am
by Velocomp
If your iBike is calibrated well, then these tools aren't really necessary at all.

Check Calibration is useful when you're first starting out with the iBike, or when you've just installed your iBike on a second bike.

Analyze Bike Settings lets you do things post-ride, such as adjust bike rider weight, or starting elevation

Analyze Wind is an easy way to check the wind sensor calibration. This has to be used with GREAT CAUTION; if you are doing group rides, one-way rides, or if wind changes significantly during the ride, then this tool won't work

Analyze Route is useful for out-and-back rides, as long as no drafting was done. However, if your iBike is dialed in, you won't get meaningful shifts. For long rides, where wind can change, this tool won't work well

Tweak CdA, Crr is fun to play with if you have a DFPM and want to fine-tune your iBike.

Analyze Dynamic CdA requires a DFPM

Re: Analyze Route

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:03 am
by KimG
John,

Thanks; this is very helpful...

Typically my rides are loops starting and ending in the same place but different roads inbetween; would Analyze Route provide useful for this type of ride?

Kimball

Re: Analyze Route

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:18 pm
by Velocomp
KimG wrote:John,

Thanks; this is very helpful...

Typically my rides are loops starting and ending in the same place but different roads inbetween; would Analyze Route provide useful for this type of ride?

Kimball
Very possibly. Please post a typical file and we'll take a look.

Re: Analyze Route

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:45 pm
by KimG
Here is a 20 mile loop that I did last weekend.

Re: Analyze Route

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:04 am
by Velocomp
KimG wrote:Here is a 20 mile loop that I did last weekend.
This is a strange ride file, showing a consistent headwind. Please post another ride file if possible, so we can cross-check them.

Re: Analyze Route

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:59 am
by KimG
Here is a file from a ride I took on Tuesday. I think that the the OS2 2.13 update was loaded into the Newton+ after the Saturday ride.

Re: Analyze Route

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:07 pm
by KimG
Here is the file from the same route as the one from 10/6 that I rode today.

Re: Analyze Route

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:46 pm
by still-chasing
Velocomp wrote:If your iBike is calibrated well, then these tools aren't really necessary at all.

Check Calibration is useful when you're first starting out with the iBike, or when you've just installed your iBike on a second bike.

Analyze Bike Settings lets you do things post-ride, such as adjust bike rider weight, or starting elevation

Analyze Wind is an easy way to check the wind sensor calibration. This has to be used with GREAT CAUTION; if you are doing group rides, one-way rides, or if wind changes significantly during the ride, then this tool won't work

Analyze Route is useful for out-and-back rides, as long as no drafting was done. However, if your iBike is dialed in, you won't get meaningful shifts. For long rides, where wind can change, this tool won't work well

Tweak CdA, Crr is fun to play with if you have a DFPM and want to fine-tune your iBike.

Analyze Dynamic CdA requires a DFPM
Thanks for the explanation John. May I add a request or offer my observation? Is it possible to add an "Accept" button in the "Analyze tilt and Power Advanced" view"? After viewing the graph, It clearly shows a major improvement on the data. Although small difference sometimes, It's good to have that option. Thanks! I think this is a better representation of the ride than doing the "Analyze route" which gives a big variations of data sometimes.

The tilt window I'm talking about is after clicking on the "analyze route", there is a button "show tilt plot". Another window pops up which brings you to "Analyze tilt and Power advanced view".